So a couple weeks ago I was sitting in the lunchroom with some of my friends, and some people who I don't really know that well. I was the only one who was queer at the table, and somebody brought up how Dumbledore is gay. Eventually some guy joked, "Well that explains all the late night meetings with Harry" (If you didn't know, In the later books Harry meets with Dumbledore to have private lessons). I was pretty mad at this, because he was suggesting that all gay people are sexual predators. I made a really sarcastic remark about how ignorant and rude that comment was. Then, today at lunch I was with some of the same girls that were there. Somehow we brought up that one day at lunch and then about 3 of them ganged up on me, saying that I shouldn't have made that sarcastic remark. While I admitted that my sarcasm was overkill, I held fast to the fact that you can change or at least affect people's perceptions and stereotypes, even if they are subconscious. They argued against that as well, and one of them asked 'How can you change stereotypes without joking about them'....Anyways what do you think?
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/11/01 17:59
By: Joey C.
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I think you did what you thought was right. I also think that the true way to change stereotypes is to live by example. I'm Muslim and alot of the time, people have this idea about Muslims being terrorists....the closest I come to being terrifing is raising my voice, which I don't do really because it hurts my throat (I'm hopeless). Anyway, the point is you were right to stand up for yourself and what you believe in. Some people are going to be arrogant and haughty but all you can do is lead them away from that thinking through living the best you can.
I'm sorry, did I even answer the question?
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/11/02 07:18
By: Kanae
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I thought that was a good answer, Joey.
Stereotypes will be crushed by self parody and self depreciation to point out jsut how stupid they are, certainly, but when someone makes the joke with a genuinely malicious intent or out of complete ingorance that's when the harm is done.
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/11/02 16:26
By: Joey C.
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So true you are.
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/11/02 16:44
By: Harry93
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halla at me
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/11/09 11:08
By: cuteboy
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I had a similar incident with this kid at lunch. I was sitting down at lunch and he was making homophobic jokes. I called him a pathetic homophobe and now he always says rude comments about me. Don't worry about it High School is as hard as ever because of homophobia.
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/12/16 07:57
By: RSco
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I don't think you can destroy the stereotypes, especially the subconscious ones. But you can stand up and say something when people act upon them or say something about it. We can try to change their actions, but not their thoughts. "Be who you are and say what you feel-those who mind don't matter and those that matter don't mind."
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/12/17 07:10
By: youyelled...
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no im pretty sure stereotypes and even homophobia will get less worse every genaration.think 10 years ago.im preety sure it wos worse then
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/12/20 13:09
By: MichaelLefranc
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I dont think stereotypes will ever be removed, they can be altered with good education, but never removed...
But some Gay people live up to these stereotypes on purpose, such as speaking in a camp voice, that really annoys me...
I tend to just ignore peoples stereotypes when i get comments, or as somebody said above, make the person saying it feel really stupid by pointing out how ridiculous their opinion is! Feel Free To PM Me.
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2007/12/20 17:13
By: all.neon.like
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Well, I think it really depends on the tone of the person who said, "that explains all the late night meetings". I mean, it could have definitely been a derogatory remark, in which case it's great that you spoke up. Of course, if he was obviously making a joke, I don't think it was a joke about Dumbledore's character and more a joke about the gay stereotype itself. If that's the case, I don't really see any problem with the comment: stereotypes are to be laughed at.
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2008/01/12 18:07
By: Andy92
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Post edited by: Andy92, at: 2008/01/26 10:16
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Re:I've been thinking about this all day...
Date: 2008/01/26 21:07
By: johnicaster
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I completely agree, all.neon.like. There's no harm done if it is a joke at the stereotype's expense and not a person's.
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