I just wanted to have a litte chat about bisexuals and bisexuality if anyone wants to join in? I just wondered if general opinion follows that bisexuals are perhaps confused, or that maybe they are in fact in the most natural and 'pure' human state. Also if the general consensus is that bisexuals tend to sleep around a lot more than their completely gay or straight counterparts, or whether it could be possible that they just like CERTAIN boys and CERTAIN girls, like everybody else.
Feel free to chip in, but please don't slander anybody's individual sexual preferences.
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/01/01 04:22
By: Trulymauri
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All right, all my strict G friends are going to hate me for this, but I am most likely Bi, I only ID as Gay cause I happen to fall in love with alot more boys then gurls, but thats not the point. We always talk about sexual quality, but that doesn't just mean that we want to excapted as gay, and exculde the Bi cause we think they're greedy, it means to have an equality were we won't need sexual ID's were everyone can fall in love with out having to ID conform, or be trained to a certain way. Were the sex of your partner won't matter because we love each other no matter what the sex. The proud to be origanaly me, Mauri C!
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/01/01 18:10
By: eversweet
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that maybe they are in fact in the most natural and 'pure' human state
That made me think about pansexuality. I think a lot of people aren't aware of the difference between pansexual and bisexual people.
I was reading an article draft not too long ago by my best friend's step mother, who has been in a homosexual relationship with said friend's mother for over eight years. It was about sexual orientation, and about gays who had fallen at one point in their lives for a person of the opposite gender, despite being homosexual and otherwise completely unattracted to the opposite gender, and about straight people who had the same sort of thing but with the same gender. There's always going to be a gay man somewhere with a girlfriend, and she'll just be the only female he's ever been and ever going to be attracted to so it starts firing up questions. Is he gay? Or is he bi? Or is he pan? I think it's probably quite rare for a person to be exacty 100% straight, or 100% gay. Not impossible, just rare. But if a gay man not being a complete100% attracted to men it doesn't mean he's not gay.
I'm bisexual. I wouldn't say I'm equally attracted to both genders, mainly because I'm young and not quite sure yet, but I am bi. Definitely. And I'm only attracted to certain boys and certain girls, or I'd be in a lot of sticky situations with my friends.
Tarts are tarts. There are bisexual tarts, straight tarts and gay tarts but not all bi's are tarts, not all straight people are tarts and not all gays are tarts because then everyone in the world would be a tart... well except asexual people.... But I'm sure you get what I mean ~Megan~
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/01/02 10:45
By: Morgan05
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I have heard pansexuality disscused before, and my opinion is that it is a convienent label to give somebody who shy's away from the label of 'bisexual'. Sure, I agree, it is very rare to find a completely straight or male person. There are no gay people, and there are no straight people. We are all bisexuals.
But obviously, it would be quite a rediculous notion to say that everyone should embrace their bisexuality. So I suppose the first question is, at what point can we call a predominently hetrosexual straight, and a predominently homosexual person gay? Is it after the 50% attraction mark? Is it in their actions rather than their feelings?
Secondly it is a fact that on average bisexual people have more sexual partners than their gay or straight counterparts. This in a society like ours, make's them tarts.
And, eversweet, in your absolutist notion that if everyone in the world were tarts. Then, of course, I answer to you, that in that world, no one would then be a tart. There would be nothing to measure a tart to.
Just a thought.
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/01/02 13:55
By: matt_bi_88
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I don't understand the pansexual label...does it mean that person is possibly attracted to ANYONE? That sounds like a bisexual who also might like transgendered people, which...sounds like a bisexual. I unno. Sometimes it seems like we spend too much time labeling and not enough time loving.
Hmm...I think there's the Kingsley measure of sexuality, where everyone is slightly gay and slightly hetero. Very few people are 100% either way, and most of us are 30% one way and 70% the other, or somewheres around there. But about the..."are bi people just easy" thing...I'm bi and am not THAT easy . It's really just comes down to who you are...though Margaret Cho (an awesome Korean-American comedian) made the point that "when I first was attracted to girls, I went through this 'am I lez...am I straight...am I bi...?' thing, and then I realized that I'm just slutty!"
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/01/02 19:24
By: Morgan05
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I like what you said about 'too much time labelling, and not enough time loving' Labels are our manic little way of boxing people together, and seperating people out. Much like stero types, which are also considered to have a negative effect. But these labels are still important, because they help us generalise and understand people better, in some cases. And as we've asked before Matt, what the hell is love anyway? lol
As for pansexuality, could someone please give us a clear, dictionary definition? I can't because I just tend to rattle on about it being a softer word for bisexuality.
So, from the Kingsley scale, are we all agreed that bisexuality is perhaps THE most natural state? ~ and would someone please post a comment on why they think bisexuals ARE tarts. Don't worry, we won't bite if you don't want us to
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/01/03 02:25
By: eversweet
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Maybe in order to lay differences aside, or to at least accept them, society needs to 'sort' them and understand them first. Perhaps all of this labelling is really a step in the right direction to a future with less predjudice and discrimination.
Pansexuals are people attracted to people. Like, they are attracted to all genders, as opposed to bisexuals who are attracted to two genders and usually diffrentiate between the two.
I found this definition on a list of slang words used in the gbl community... Someone sexually attracted to people of all sexes, as opposed to bisexual (= attracted to two sexes) and monosexual (= attracted to only one sex).
Hope that helps.
ps. I hope that anything I've said doesn't offend anyone else or anything that they believe. I swear I didn't mean it if I did ~Megan~
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/01/30 06:14
By: kinaholik
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In reply to the subject, no I don't think that bisexuals are tarts. Nor do I think that they cannot decide or are just plain greedy. And I don't know enough about pansexuality to be able to offer an honest view.
Being gay, I have suffered a lot of abuse from peers. This has taught me that no-one should be discriminated against like that, because of what it can do. So why should we, as gay people, pass on discrimination who seem to 'sit on the fence'?
I've heard a lot of talk about people being themselves and not worrying what people think of their sexuality in these forums. Shouldn't we embrace their choice and not try to rationalise it? I mean has anyone you know ever tried to provide reasons for why you're gay, because they can't accept it? Aren't we equal? Pardon my ranting. I really am crazy today.
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/03/13 01:29
By: Fakename
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The the scenario I'm about to give is very common with 13/14/15 year old girls. I often see these girls coming out as "bi" and dating a girl. Then, suddenly, wham bam thank you mam all the guys around are into them cos "girl on girl is hot". And what happens? They break up with their little gf's and 2 weeks later anything gay is gross, they say. Oh and of course they have hot new boyfriends they "love".
Those girls, who fake it now THEY are tarts. I've honestly seen it happen 5 or 6 times with the younger kids at my school.
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/05/13 21:34
By: eversweet
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This is my favourite thread hehe. morgan, your ranting makes me grin. ~Megan~
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/05/29 18:47
By: dee0204
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I agree with Fakename i no a few people who has done that. I dont beleave all bisexual girls are slags i guess most of them are just having fun while they can.
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Re:??Bisexual = Tart??
Date: 2006/06/26 00:17
By: annabel
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I think bisexuality is just another orientation along with gay, straight, pansexual, asexual, transexual(though that's more than just a sexual orientation).
I've always thought being bi means you can be attracted to anyone, regardless of their gender, but you probably won't be attracted to everyone just like being straight doesn't mean you fancy everyone of the opposite sex!
In response to Fakename's comment, I've noticed that being bi seems to be a fashion statement amongst younger teens atm, especially emos.
I get caught between the whole am I bi or am I gay thing... gets v confusing when you're trying to pigeon hole yourself.
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. It's really just comes down to who you are...though Margaret Cho (an awesome Korean-American comedian) made the point that "when I first was attracted to girls, I went through this 'am I lez...am I straight...am I bi...?' thing, and then I realized that I'm just slutty!"
