i personally think so. i don't smoke it, but i don't think there's anything wrong. it's the persons choice. i think that it should be just like cigarettes. the government should sell it and tax the heck out of it, then the country can make money off it, instead of losing money every time they have to put someone in jail for posession.
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2007/12/21 01:29
By: BravoLima
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You don't want to know what I think
The war on drugs has generally become a war on personal freedom. You should always respect one's religious beliefs, however imaginary friends, delusional behaviour, a belief in a two thousand year old folk-lore should be treated by a professional.
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2007/12/30 20:34
By: Soulfire
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If it's their choice, then why stop at legalizing marijuana? Why not make ecstacy, cocaine, meth, and all the other fun drugs legal? After all, it's their choice to do it...
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2007/12/31 01:41
By: Keyblade92
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I'm not sure if that's sarcasm, but if it's not, then we have to factor in the effects of the drugs on the people, and see if it would case a negative effect in areas such as crime. For just marijuana, we have to make sure that the taxation money is not negated by the effect/cost for the NHS [UK].
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2007/12/31 05:24
By: BravoLima
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Consider this, there's no law against killing yourself, in places I know of anyway, but to own the drugs that can kill you is. Is that a war on suicide or a war on personal freedom?
Ecstacy, cocain, meth, and all the other 'fun' drugs are not marijuana. I am no one to say where the line should be, and neither are you. Marijuana is not a black and white issue. Anti-marijuana 'activists' these days call on the devestating effects it has to the brain. Well yes, consumed in large quantities alcohol has damaging effects as well. The key is moderation, and not smoking the debilitatingly strong chronic one gets nowadays.
I'm not saying we should legalise all drugs, only because some drugs are so incredibly powerful. I'm also not suggesting that marijuana be legal outright. Like alcohol and tobacco smoking, there would be limitations. If the government condoned it's use there could be some level of keeping the power of the drug down to a reasonably safe level. When all of it's illegal as it is, pragmatically for dealers, the stronger the better.
Don't give me the crappy old postulation 'but drugs harms everyone around the user'. Yes, of course, if taken to excess. Just look at an alcoholic, however we're not banning alcohol are we? Nor should we.
Yes, it would probably work quite well to tax the sale of it as well. One of the major reasons the government is unwanting in illegalising cigarettes outright is that the tax the government gets from cigarettes outweighs the effect to the health system. You should always respect one's religious beliefs, however imaginary friends, delusional behaviour, a belief in a two thousand year old folk-lore should be treated by a professional.
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2007/12/31 07:24
By: Damien666
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All drugs should be legalised, in a "free" country the individual should have the right to do to themselves as they please it's their own body, brain etc. Alcohol kills people, smoking kills - everytime i see a packet I'm reminded of the fact.
Yeah there's the argument that drugs ruin other people lives other than just the users and I'm not going to claim that isn't true, but a lot of the problems could be solved, if drugs were legalized the cost of them would plummet resulting in the number 1 drug related crime virtually disappearing - theft.
The three biggest world industries are: Arms, Cocaine and Motors, if we legalised all the drugs and taxed them think how much money the government could have! They could probably even afford to buy "Arms" that actually work for our soldiers and pay for anyone who wanted drug rehab! Problem solved!
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2007/12/31 14:47
By: dragon_14
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It could be a good idea to have this sort of drug legalized, in fact if all of them were legal it could be good for the economy and for control over them, that way they could be moderately distributed etc. Also it let's there to be other controls over them such as making sure that they are known what affects they have so that people are informed. They are more dangerous when they are illegal since you have no idea what you are getting or where it's coming from, or at least that's my opinion. Shawn"Dragon_14"
-Senior Manager Operations Department -Training Officer -Forum Assistant Manager TheGYC Chat Service
Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men.
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2008/01/01 21:03
By: Soulfire
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So, my first post was sarcasm.
At any rate, I actually do support the legalization of marijuana, but the point I was trying to make is moderation. BravoLima hit it quite well.
Personally speaking, I think that some drugs are just too strong, regardless of the monetary benefits that could be gained from taxing the hell out of them. A line, I feel, should be drawn somewhere. If marijuana were to be sold similar to cigarettes, then heck, whatever! It's more money for the government, really.
The problem is that the marijuana sold should be just that ... marijuana. The "marijuana" that causes problems is mixed with a lot of other really nasty stuff, and that is what creates most of the negative side effects. Marijuana is much healthier than the cigarettes we currently have.
Besides, the THC in marijuana can help memory loss ... even prevent alzheimer's!
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2008/01/02 19:44
By: C_Dude
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BravoLima wrote: You don't want to know what I think
The war on drugs has generally become a war on personal freedom.
EVERYTHING kinda is becoming a war on personal freedom. Where's the line...? *sigh* the tolerance of absolutely everything can only lead to chaos.
But hey, I suppose marijuana is illegal cause it has the potential to truly ruin lives. Most times i guess it doesn't. Just like most car crashes aren't fatal. But still... A lethal one can fuck up entire generations of families. So i suppose they're not saying "ZOMGPOTISEVIL!!!" rather just trying to minimize its potentially destructive outcomes. "Keep it simple buds." --Carlooo! ツ
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2008/01/03 02:34
By: Kingy_boi
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Catherine wrote: do you think that marijuana should be legal?
i personally think so. i don't smoke it, but i don't think there's anything wrong. it's the persons choice. i think that it should be just like cigarettes. the government should sell it and tax the heck out of it, then the country can make money off it, instead of losing money every time they have to put someone in jail for posession.
Tabacco is the governments Marijuana, the only difference is they make it WAYYYYYYY more addictive and the government controls all of it. Plus the only reason why its illegal is because the government isn't given a piece of the pie and it gives a source of income that doesn't have to give taxes. If you get three glasses of water and put different food coloring in them they come out with many different colors; but its still the same old water isn't it? Make the connection? -DJ Prince Paul
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2008/01/03 02:51
By: BravoLima
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C_Dude, you express the same idiotic idealogy that's rife in Russian politics. You think that tolerance leads to chaos. How?
Who ever said tolerance of everything? What the hell are you talking about?
Answer me this, why is alcohol not illegal, for your same illogical reasons that 'marijuana can negatively afflict 'some' people'? Heck, marijuana is legal in The Netherlands I believe, unless I'm confusing it for another European country. That country has some of the best living standards and some of the more liberal ideals put to action compared to the rest of the world. Go tell them their country's in chaos.
Are you high? You certainly reek of illogic. You should always respect one's religious beliefs, however imaginary friends, delusional behaviour, a belief in a two thousand year old folk-lore should be treated by a professional.
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Re:should it be legal?
Date: 2008/01/04 07:35
By: C_Dude
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BravoLima wrote: C_Dude, you express the same idiotic idealogy that's rife in Russian politics. You think that tolerance leads to chaos. How?
Who ever said tolerance of everything? What the hell are you talking about?
Answer me this, why is alcohol not illegal, for your same illogical reasons that 'marijuana can negatively afflict 'some' people'? Heck, marijuana is legal in The Netherlands I believe, unless I'm confusing it for another European country. That country has some of the best living standards and some of the more liberal ideals put to action compared to the rest of the world. Go tell them their country's in chaos.
Are you high? You certainly reek of illogic.
Mate, go stitch your lips up together up or something. It's a discussion, not a pissing contest.
Point 1) My point was yes, the absolute tolerance of everything WILL lead to chaos. You may have even heard of it, Anarchy sound familiar? I'm sure you have, you sound like a bloke who likes to think he's always sure about what he's talking about.
Why in the world would I condemn tolerance in the context that it allows us to avoid being abused and ridiculed by every person we see just because we're gay? Oh that's right, I'm high... Trust a high person to do that... Mmyess...
Point 2) In no way was I attacking the perspectives to day that see tolerance as a remedy for discrimination, I just term it differently. Instead of "tolerance" for race/ sexuality/ gender etc, I use the term Acceptance. I find it's more appropriate, for it describes the will behind the action of accepting. Instead of tolerance which could simply be a passive (thus non-caring/ -acknowledging) attitude.
Point 3) Stop twisting statements. Netherlands or whatever country you meant, wouldn't be in a state of chaos (due to tolerance of Marijuana) because NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IS TOLERANT ON EVERYTHING. (Which, if you had read more carefully, is what i said would lead to chaos, NOT the tolerance of pot.)
I'm well aware that marijuana is legal in a country or two, and to think that I'd be idiotic enough to say that that country's completely gone to hell just because of its tolerance of a drug, is preeeeetty damn idiotic in itself.
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You might want to reread the sentence and really get it in there, before spitting shit on the keyboard. Since when did the Netherlands tolerate EVERYTHING? And since they obviously don't, how then do they become an appropriate subject to compare with my statement?
Keep smoking your crack, just make sure you're clear of it before u do your typing. Remember now! Re-read! Re-evaluate! aaaand UNDERSTAND before spitting!
You know I love ya, xoxo ,C
Post edited by: C_Dude, at: 2008/01/04 07:46 "Keep it simple buds." --Carlooo! ツ
