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Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/10 17:01 By: Steely Dan Status:  
 
A function for “gay genes” after all?

Sa­mo­an lovers hint at ev­o­lu­tion­ary mech­a­nisms, sci­en­tists claim

Feb. 8, 2008
Special to World Science

Stud­ies of some un­usu­al men in the re­mote Pa­cif­ic have led sci­en­tists to sur­pris­ing con­clu­sions about ho­mo­sex­u­al and oth­er gender-bending be­hav­iors.

One of these con­clu­sions: sex­u­al at­trac­tion to mem­bers of the same sex may have an ev­o­lu­tion­ary func­tion, though past stud­ies had failed to find one.

The red ar­row shows the ti­ny is­lands of Sa­moa, sand­wiched in the Pa­ci­fic be­tween the land mass­es of Aus­tral­ia (left) and North Amer­i­ca (right.) (Click for larg­er view). (Im­age cour­te­sy U.S. State Dept.)
A sec­ond as­ser­tion to emerge from the work is that psy­chol­o­gists should re­con­sid­er the way they class­ify as a “disorder” trans­sex­u­alism—a strong de­sire to be the op­po­site sex.

The re­search fo­cus­es on a re­mark­a­ble group of men who have sex with men, though they de­fy much con­ven­tion­al wis­dom on what be­ing “gay” is. They form a broadly ac­cept­ed so­cial class in Sa­moa, a south Pa­cif­ic is­land na­t­ion.

The stud­ies are di­rect­ed in part to­ward re­solv­ing a sci­en­tif­ic mys­ter­y: why does ho­mo­sex­u­al­ity pe­r­sist in the world? It seems to make lit­tle evo­lu­tionary sense.

Ev­o­lu­tion­ary the­o­ry, the lens through which most sci­en­tists study bi­o­log­i­cal traits, holds that in each popula­t­ion, the genes of mem­bers who re­pro­duce the most come to dom­i­nate the gene pool. That’s be­cause these in­di­vid­u­als, un­sur­pris­ingly, spread their genes most wide­ly.

By that logic gays, who re­pro­duce lit­tle, should­n’t ex­ist. Yet they do, along with some evi­dence their ten­den­cies may have a ge­ne­tic component. What gives?

The ex­plana­t­ion, ma­ny sci­en­tists ar­gue, could be that the child­less gays put ex­tra ef­forts in­to help­ing raise nephews and nieces. That would boost the chil­dren’s chances of sur­viv­al, and some­day re­pro­duc­tion. These youths, even if not gay, might share with their aunt or un­cle a few genes pro­mot­ing ho­mo­sex­u­al­ity—en­sur­ing a clutch of “gay genes” in eve­ry genera­t­ion.

One prob­lem with this pro­pos­al: it has failed past sci­en­tif­ic tests. A few stud­ies have found gays aren’t es­pe­cially help­ful to their fam­i­lies. Those re­sults have worked in fa­vor of an op­pos­ing ar­gu­ment, that ho­mo­sex­u­al­ity has no ev­o­lu­tion­ary func­tion. Sci­ent­ists who back this view say ho­mo­sex­u­al­ity is an aberra­t­ion, so it has about as much bi­o­log­i­cal func­tion as a birth de­fect—none.

Main­stream physi­cians no long­er con­sid­er ho­mo­sex­u­al­ity a dis­or­der; it was dropped from the Amer­i­can Psy­chi­at­ric As­socia­t­ion’s hand­book of men­tal dis­or­ders in the 1970s. Trans­sex­u­al­ism, or “gen­der ident­ity dis­or­der,” is still list­ed, though the ma­nual says it’s only a dis­or­der if it causes the pa­tient sig­nif­i­cant dis­tress.

In the new stud­ies, Ca­na­di­an psy­chol­o­gists sought to test some of these com­pet­ing ideas by vis­it­ing Sa­moa, a rel­a­tively un­-westernized land. By stu­dying peo­ple who they said live clos­er to the ways of human­ity’s “ances­tral” past, the re­search­ers said they hoped to as­sess pos­si­ble ev­o­lu­tion­ary func­tions for ho­mo­sex­u­al­ity and the roles of oth­er gen­der-blur­ring be­hav­iors.

The idea about gays helping their kin, called the kin-selection hy­poth­e­sis, might have failed past tests be­cause these were done in mod­ern­ized West­ern so­ci­eties, the re­search­ers said. Gays might help rel­a­tives more in tra­di­tion­al, tribally-based cul­tures, the sci­en­tists claimed, be­cause these of­ten have tighter-knit fam­i­lies and few­er an­ti-gay bi­ases that could al­ien­ate gays. More­o­ver, the re­search­ers ar­gued, the tra­di­tion­al en­vi­ron­ment is more ap­pro­pri­ate to stu­dy, as it’s more like the set­ting in which huma­ns mainly evolved.

Men who ha­bit­u­ally have sex with men are so­cially ac­cept­ed in Sa­moa, where they’re known as fa’a­fines. Some char­ac­ter­is­tics of fa’a­fines, the psy­chol­o­gists said, are quite for­eign to West­ern con­cepts of ho­mo­sex­u­al­ity: no­ta­bly, they have sex only with men who are con­sid­ered “straight,” not with each oth­er. But they are Sa­mo­a’s equiv­a­lent of what West­erners would call gay men.

Based on fa’afine re­sponses on ques­tionnaires, com­pared to re­sponses of heterosex­u­al Sa­mo­an men, the re­search­ers con­clud­ed that fa’a­fines put “sig­nif­i­cantly” more ef­fort in­to rais­ing nephews and nieces. The child­care ac­ti­vi­ties that saw stronger in­put from fa’a­fines in­clud­ed babysit­ting, buy­ing toys, tu­tor­ing, ex­pos­ing the chil­dren to art and mu­sic, and con­tri­but­ing to day-care, med­i­cal and educa­t­ion ex­penses, the sur­veys in­di­cat­ed.

It’s the first study to of­fer real ev­i­dence for the kin se­lec­tion hy­poth­e­sis’ bas­ic pre­dic­tion, “that an­drophilic [“gay”] males should di­rect more al­tru­is­tic be­hav­ior to­ward kin than gy­nephilic [“s­traight”] males,” the team wrote in a re­port of their find­ings. The pa­pe­r ap­peared in last May’s is­sue of the re­search jour­nal Ev­o­lu­tion and Human Be­hav­ior.

But more stud­ies will be needed, wrote the au­thors, Paul Vasey and col­leagues at the Un­ivers­ity of Leth­bridge in Al­ber­ta. A stronger study would com­pare the fa’a­fines to child­less non-fa’a­fines, they not­ed. In their own stu­dy, 58 pe­r­cent of the “s­traight” re­spon­dents had chil­dren, who might have di­verted their at­ten­tion from nephews and nieces.

In anoth­er stu­dy, Vasey and Nan­cy Bart­lett of Mount Saint Vin­cent Uni­vers­ity in No­va Sco­tia con­clud­ed that psy­chol­o­gists’ as­sessment of trans­sex­u­alism as a dis­or­der, at least for chil­dren, should be re­vised.

The rela­t­ion­ship be­tween trans­sex­u­alism and ho­mo­sex­u­al­ity, if any, is un­clear, though some ex­pe­rts say that ma­ny boys with “gen­der iden­t­ity dis­or­der” be­come gay.

Vasey and Bart­lett wrote that fa’a­fines they in­ter­viewed sel­dom re­called be­ing “dis­tressed” by feel­ing or act­ing like a girl in child­hood. Most such dis­tress—the re­search­ers con­clud­ed based on that and oth­er fac­tors—arises in West­ern so­ci­eties be­cause of the stig­mat­iz­a­tion of such chil­dren.

Thus, the researchers wrote, the di­ag­no­sis of “gen­der ident­ity dis­or­der in chil­dren” should no longer be list­ed “in its cur­rent form” in the Amer­i­can Psy­chol­o­gy As­socia­t­ion’s hand­book, the Di­ag­nos­tic and Sta­tis­ti­cal Man­u­al of Men­tal Dis­or­ders. Some gay acti­vists have called for the con­di­tion to be de-listed com­plete­ly. Vasey and Bart­lett didn’t go that far. But in their study, in last fall’s is­sue of the re­search jour­nal Per­spec­tives in Bi­ol­o­gy and Med­i­cine, they did write: “There is no sound ev­i­dence that cross-gender be­hav­iors or ident­i­ties, per se, cause dis­tress.”


Cool study but it doesn't really say anything about Lesbians, maybe they couldn't find a similar place with women to study. I'd assume the same would hold true for them but who knows?
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/10 17:02 By: Steely Dan Status:  
 
oh here's the link
http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/080208_gaygene
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/11 01:52 By: BravoLima Status:  
 
One thing it doesn't explain. It fails to mention how this 'gay-gene' gets passed on. If the fa'afines (unless I've missed something) simply help others, then unless they partake in straight sex, for the mere sake of doing it, then their gene is not going to reproduce.

Interesting read though, I believe it runs along similar ideaology as some paedophiles have used to give an evolutional explanation of their orientation.

It might be an unintentional advantage, but I don't think there can be much intellegent conversation about the causes until more research is successful.
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/11 06:32 By: Kanae Status:  
 
Anthropologically speaking, the Globalised world is devided along gender lines, but if you look back at texts from medieval Arabia and the like, you'll find that their societies practiced homosexuality on an age basis, whereby a younger boy would have to have sex with an elder man to pass into adulthood. I think that this study is rather ethnocentric: it's being carried out by phycologists, who are trained within our own paradigms.

Besides, so what if there isn't an "evolutionary reason" for homosexuality? People have been asking for thousands of years what life is about, and we still have no firm conclusion on that. It seems like a waste of time and money to reseach into such a seemingly unprofitable area of research. Can't we be doing some more research into needless innoculations or how to kill viruses instead?
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/11 07:54 By: Steely Dan Status:  
 
I think it's more important to our bigot friends really; I agree with you but if the research is done I might as well to use it to prove a point.

BravoLima wrote:
. It fails to mention how this 'gay-gene' gets passed on. If the fa'afines (unless I've missed something) simply help others, then unless they partake in straight sex, for the mere sake of doing it, then their gene is not going to reproduce.

Even if you're not gay, you probably share some gay genes with your gay Aunt or Uncle; rates of homosexuality are higher among siblings, so that rule would naturally apply to extended family on a smaller scale.
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/11 08:21 By: Ashift8 BR Status:  
 
Interesting...but, like people have, said I fail to see the genes gets passed directly.

Well, maybe...its a combination of recessive and dominant genes genes, and if a (straight?) carrier reproduces with another carrier, and the correction combination of genes are expressed, a gay baby is made. Maybe?

I think twin studies came to the conclusion that genetics come into play some, its mostly environmental. But in some cases, the reverse was true. I don't think anyone really knows.

Interesting set of information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_gene
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/12 04:03 By: BravoLima Status:  
 
'Even if you're not gay, you probably share some gay genes with your gay Aunt or Uncle; rates of homosexuality are higher among siblings, so that rule would naturally apply to extended family on a smaller scale.'

Nup, sorry but that's a dodgy response. Even if I shared gay genes with my siblings (and I wasn't gay). This means that my mother or father was gay (or perhaps their mother or father). Given the numbers of gays to straights, I find this system of passing homosexuality as a 'dormant' gene in most people as unlikely. There would just be too many 'children' being not gay to successfully procreate such a gene for so long to my thinking. Besides, when you think of living conditions of life before, say, Jesus's time even; it wouldn't have been very effectual to have people not producing children of their own. Conditions were tough enough, and many babies would not make it.

But then again evolution is not designed, so it may be that it's just a fortunate fluke, or a bunch of people making something positive out of something that would otherwise be an evolutional defect.

Ashift8:
'I think twin studies came to the conclusion that genetics come into play some, its mostly environmental.'

I don't think; in fact I think the opposite. The amazing thing about those cases are that generally the twins are raised in very similar ways, which rules out a lot of theories about 'environment'.
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/27 18:43 By: trippboi Status:  
 
I did not thank there were people really studying this kind of thing. It makes me thank there just trying to find out a way to prevent people from being gay or what have you.

It was interesting to read though.
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/28 01:12 By: MooYak Status:  
 
trippboi wrote:
I did not thank there were people really studying this kind of thing. It makes me thank there just trying to find out a way to prevent people from being gay or what have you.

It was interesting to read though.


As science it should have nothing to do with "fixing" homosexuality, but rather (and as it would appear) it should concentrate on discovering truth through empirical research. We should not hesitate to discover who we are and how we behave. Ignorance is not bliss.
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Link to American Psychological Association's page regarding homosexual relations.
http://www.apa.org/releases/gaymarriage_reso.pdf
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Re:Evolutional function for Homosexuality
Date: 2008/02/28 03:49 By: BravoLima Status:  
 
Supply and demand, my dear subordinate MooYak.

If the 'cause' of homosexuality is ever found, it could herald in a great day for many people, perhaps solidify justification for many, further understanding of other alternative sexualities, and more.

And then, there will be a corner market of the world, fuelled by religious intolerance, where abortions due to 'Mah li'l Jim Jim had a touch of da Queen Gene' will begin.

Doubtless, when the atom was split for good, a bomb was made for terrorism.
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