1. Most Christians hold the belief that their religion is correct, the right one, and all others are just bogus. But why does "the right religion" have so many different denominations in which no two can really fully agree with each other and use the same book? I figure the right religion would have one church and everyone can agree with each other since clearly Christianity focuses beliefs from the Bible.
2. The "all loving god" most Christians claim to worship really does not seem loving to me. For example in the Old Testament God flooded the Earth (Gen. 6), commanded the death of people (Leviticus 20, Numbers 31). Now some people might agree that it is "God's old way, he changed" but if you read Revelations God is pretty brutal with the plagues and all that. Now this all depends if you take it literally, if you don't can you share your thoughts on this? And if there is something I am missing, fill me in.
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/06 13:38
By: eversweet
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Ok.
By starting off with "Most Christians" you're expressing a problem that you have with individuals who happen to be Christians, not a direct problem with Christianity itself.
Nothing you've said actually comes across as a problem with Christianity... just as issues you have regarding translation and interpretation and a particular type of people who are Christians. Note: by 'translation' i don't mean translating from one language to another. i mean.. when you read or hear something you translate it so that you understand it, and then you interpret it to get a meaning out of it.
It's because of this whole 'translation and interpretation' thing that all the different branches of Christianity aren't on par. The foundations of their beliefs are from the Bible.. but one's understanding of some parts of the Bible differ entirely to that of another person's. ~Megan~
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/06 14:49
By: LeonTrotsky
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If the Bible is without error why is there need for interpretation? A perfect book would make sense to everyone. If the Bible clearly says something what is the point of interpreting into something that fits your own belief?
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/06 17:36
By: Sxcriley
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LeonTrotsky wrote: If the Bible is without error why is there need for interpretation? A perfect book would make sense to everyone. If the Bible clearly says something what is the point of interpreting into something that fits your own belief? whoever said the bible was clear and concise? its confusing. sometimes i have no idea what is being said! i spose thats why i go to church. "It doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world." - Rick
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/07 10:13
By: LeonTrotsky
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Why do you need other humans to tell you what the Bible means? I guess God did not do a good enough job to explain it. Hey, it confuses me too, which is why it just seems all bogus to me.
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/07 13:17
By: eversweet
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LeonTrotsky wrote: If the Bible is without error why is there need for interpretation? A perfect book would make sense to everyone. If the Bible clearly says something what is the point of interpreting into something that fits your own belief?
People interpret things subconsciously. You don't make something fit your beliefs.. it just does.. Even if it's clear it can mean two completely different things to people raised with differing influences on their values and attitudes.
You don't seem very willing to accept anything anyone's saying. Why bother even asking such questions if you don't want to consider the answers from the perspective of the people giving them? That's how people learn to understand each other.. and even if they don't get that far they at least learn to tolerate difference without going as far as tearing through another's beliefs. "I guess God did not do a good enough job to explain it." Rather negative input there.. i'm sure Christians just love hearing how incompetent their God is.
In heaps of cases it's not like other humans tell you what the Bible means exactly. It's what it means to them.. and that can aid in developing your own understanding of the Bible means to you. One's relationship with God is personal. Or should be. And, i think anyway, that it should be more personal than something that can be dictated through and influenced by the Church and the Bible. The Church is about God. God isn't about the Church.
i come from a family full of Baptists. Crazy Baptists. They are the type of people who are impossible to reason with. i tried explaining my idea in the above paragraph to some of my cousins and they probably wanted to shoot me for it. They hold the belief that their religion is the right one. That everyone who isn't a Baptist is ignorant and hasn't a chance of getting into heaven. Same for gays, feminists, and anyone who has sex before they're married.. or at least has the baby before they're married. i've learnt that people like that are best left to themselves. ~Megan~
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/07 13:30
By: LeonTrotsky
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The Bible is a confusing book and because of this it requires interpretation to understand, yes, but wouldn't a perfect book have the perfect message that makes sense to everyone?
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/08 02:57
By: Sxcriley
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where did u get this whole idea that the bible is perfectly understandable by everyone? clearly illiterate people cant understand it: so is it wrong for others to explain the bible to them? "It doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world." - Rick
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/12 10:33
By: UnoriginalName
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2. The "all loving god" most Christians claim to worship really does not seem loving to me. For example in the Old Testament God flooded the Earth (Gen. 6), commanded the death of people (Leviticus 20, Numbers 31). Now some people might agree that it is "God's old way, he changed" but if you read Revelations God is pretty brutal with the plagues and all that. Now this all depends if you take it literally, if you don't can you share your thoughts on this? And if there is something I am missing, fill me in.
I don't believe in the Old Testament simply because most of it is not feasible, and it's what the Jews believe in. I think that most of the stories in it are just that: stories. Also in Revelation, I'm pretty sure the plagues only affect the people that turn away from God towards the devil, once the devil claims he is the second coming of Christ. Just saying...
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/14 18:52
By: .:Josh:.
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LeonTrotsky wrote: The Bible is a confusing book and because of this it requires interpretation to understand, yes, but wouldn't a perfect book have the perfect message that makes sense to everyone?
Why call it perfect when it was written by man?
No book is perfect. (Unless written by Rita Mae Brown)
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/15 22:34
By: Artiste
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UnoriginalName wrote: I don't believe in the Old Testament simply because most of it is not feasible[...] Good, good. [...] and it's what the Jews believe in. Yeah. Those pesky Jews. Music that people with taste are listening to this week:
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Re:Problems I have with Christianity
Date: 2007/07/20 17:18
By: Soulfire
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Artiste wrote: UnoriginalName wrote: I don't believe in the Old Testament simply because most of it is not feasible[...] Good, good. [...] and it's what the Jews believe in. Yeah. Those pesky Jews. Yet, isn't is ironic that more Jews embrace homosexuality than Christians?
LeonTrotsky wrote: Here are some problems with Christianity I have:
1. Most Christians hold the belief that their religion is correct, the right one, and all others are just bogus. But why does "the right religion" have so many different denominations in which no two can really fully agree with each other and use the same book? I figure the right religion would have one church and everyone can agree with each other since clearly Christianity focuses beliefs from the Bible.
2. The "all loving god" most Christians claim to worship really does not seem loving to me. For example in the Old Testament God flooded the Earth (Gen. 6), commanded the death of people (Leviticus 20, Numbers 31). Now some people might agree that it is "God's old way, he changed" but if you read Revelations God is pretty brutal with the plagues and all that. Now this all depends if you take it literally, if you don't can you share your thoughts on this? And if there is something I am missing, fill me in.
1. The reason that Christianity asserts that it is correct is because Jesus says "I am the way, the truth, and the life. The only way to the Father is through me." Emphasis is on ONLY.
The Bible can be very subjective at parts. Do you honestly expect 2 billion people to agree on everything? That's pretty naive to do so.
2. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He sent his only Son, that whoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."
At any rate, the reason God performed those unloving acts is because of infidelity to God, sin, etc. Remember, God made a promise after flooding the world that he would never do it again.
Man has emotion, and if man is made in God's image, then it can be reasonably inferred that God has emotion as well. Sometimes it's easy to allow emotion to override reason.
Finally, love is not a one way street. For God to love you, you must love Him as well.
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