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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/06/12 20:41
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By: UnoriginalName
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-Getting Saddam out of Iraq was needed.
-It's time to leave and let the country operate itself, however, the troops can't just leave in a day. A plan needs to be set to bring everyone home.
-Washington needs to stop being concerned about oil, and start focusing on alternative fuel sources.
-"Rush Hour" sucked.
Just saying...
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/06/13 17:34
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By: Soulfire
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-Washington needs to stop being concerned about oil, and start focusing on alternative fuel sources.
-"Rush Hour" sucked.
Alternative fuel is expensive. Money we don't have, no matter how neccessary it is. If there were a real shortage of oil, gas would be MUCH more expensive and there would be MUCH more effort into finding alternative fuels.
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/06/14 14:40
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By: HYB91
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i've heard about the Nazi supply thing before. I have a day to day calender of Bushisms, mistakes made by george bush, a whole years worth!!
The war on iraq is a load of bo||ocks. If the U.S. stayed out of other countris i think it would be lot less f*cked up. The U.S. put Suddam into power in the first place, the supplied Osama and his army with everything they need and more to fight the Russians not to mention that the Bin Laden family is very rich and family friends with the Bush's. America taught the Afgans how to car-bomb.
Suddam decided to stand on his own 2 feet and told the Americans to f off, and became a mass murdering f*ck head. Bush pointed this out and said 'look, look what hes doing! We've got to go in there to get Suddam and then continue his job of murdering Iraq's and in the process kill our men off aswell!
Bush seems to like killing off their people. The war in Iraq is useless and i believe all they want is oil. Thats one of the reasons why i believe 9/11 done my the Americans. Once those planes had crashed they spread news to the world that muslims are terrorists and that Osama had planned it. This gave them an excuse to start a war. There is absolutly no proof public to this day that has any evidence to suggest that muslims/iraq's/osama had anything to do with it. Alot of people made alot of money that day and Bush certainly gained alot of power. He started the War on Terror. Infact, the only case of terrorism for the past god knows how long was 9/11.
 I think im pretty good for someone whos just leaving school 
"Some people never use their inititave simply because no-one told them to..."
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/06/15 03:14
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By: glosboy
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HYB91 wrote:
i've heard about the Nazi supply thing before. I have a day to day calender of Bushisms, mistakes made by george bush, a whole years worth!!
The war on iraq is a load of bo||ocks. If the U.S. stayed out of other countris i think it would be lot less f*cked up. The U.S. put Suddam into power in the first place, the supplied Osama and his army with everything they need and more to fight the Russians not to mention that the Bin Laden family is very rich and family friends with the Bush's. America taught the Afgans how to car-bomb.
Suddam decided to stand on his own 2 feet and told the Americans to f off, and became a mass murdering f*ck head. Bush pointed this out and said 'look, look what hes doing! We've got to go in there to get Suddam and then continue his job of murdering Iraq's and in the process kill our men off aswell!
Bush seems to like killing off their people. The war in Iraq is useless and i believe all they want is oil. Thats one of the reasons why i believe 9/11 done my the Americans. Once those planes had crashed they spread news to the world that muslims are terrorists and that Osama had planned it. This gave them an excuse to start a war. There is absolutly no proof public to this day that has any evidence to suggest that muslims/iraq's/osama had anything to do with it. Alot of people made alot of money that day and Bush certainly gained alot of power. He started the War on Terror. Infact, the only case of terrorism for the past god knows how long was 9/11.
I think im pretty good for someone whos just leaving school
Your totally right, spot on! Also, the US and the UK sold to Saddam Hussain all of those WMD's he was accused of having during the Iraq - Iran war which he later used on the Kurds. The Hypocrisy of it all!
With regards to Osama and 9/11, If you look on the FBI website, and look at the the FBI most wanted list you will see that 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama's profile, this is due to lack of evidence. The actual Osama 9/11 confession tape has been proved to be fake. http://zroxi.com/giproxy/nph-proxy.pl/000000A/http/infowars.net/articles/february2007/
190207Osama_tape.htm
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/01 20:40
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By: RavynMusic
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After 9/11, something had to be done...
however, rivers of blood never brings peace, it only brings fear and obedience thru tyranny, or chaos
the war in iraq has completely lost its purpose (if it had any)... we've occupied the country for god noes how long, and gas continues to be scarce... also, in wars (which are generally fought between 2 opposing groups) such as this one, i wud like to pose one question to bush... who the hell are we fighting again??? i mean... taliban was overthrown, saddam was overthrown... who are these "terrorists/insurgents"?? they're iraqi militiamen, and the only way to stop them is to kill the citizenry *i hope i didn't give bush any ideas if he just happens to be reading this... but if he does... FUK U!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/01 21:46
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By: chemical_flare
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The war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. AT ALL.
In fact, Saddam Hussein hated al Queda just as much if not more then we did.
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/02 04:43
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By: theoneandonly
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chemical_flare wrote:
The war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. AT ALL.
In fact, Saddam Hussein hated al Queda just as much if not more then we did.
The war in Iraq does, kind of, have to do with 911. It's a part of the "War on Terrorism". If it wasen't for 911, I don't believe the American public would ever have supported the war in Iraq.
Derrick!
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/02 06:42
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By: Stevelovesboys1
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okay, lets clear something up, america is not in iraq to get oil. it would be nice if we got oil, but thats not why we're there. So, did we go in to remove Saddam from power? are we there to avenge the victims of 9/11?Certianly. Was saddam hiding weapons of mass destruction? no, but he was harboring and training terrorists who attack the U.S.(and england). The reason why america are losing so many people in this war is not because we are somehow inferior to the terrorists, its because we are sacrificing our soldiers to the people of iraq. People are going on about how we must respect the rights of Iraqi citizens and how they are innocent, so they must not be harmed in any way. These "innocents" are the people who paraded in the streets after 9/11. These "innocents" are the ones who are funding terrorists. Theses "innocents" are the ones who are shooting at our soldiers and blowing themselves up. The real innocents are the Iraqis who want a democracy, and they are being killed by the terrorists that america helps to keep in power. Saddam is dead. At this time, the problem is not in Iraq. Rather, it is in Iran, and if we have any hope of getting rid of these terrorists, we need to overthrow the Iranian government.
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/02 11:03
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By: chemical_flare
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theoneandonly wrote:
chemical_flare wrote:
The war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. AT ALL.
In fact, Saddam Hussein hated al Queda just as much if not more then we did.
The war in Iraq does, kind of, have to do with 911. It's a part of the "War on Terrorism". If it wasen't for 911, I don't believe the American public would ever have supported the war in Iraq.
Let me re phrase that, Iraq and al Queda weren't at all connected, and Iraq did not support terrorism.
But you're right, the only reason Bush was able to trick the American public into invading Iraq is because he linked it to 9/11 (which there was no link).
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/04 12:45
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By: rad55667
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Overthrowing the iranian government would acheive nothing, all that would create is another country in the turmoil Iraq currently faces, and massively increase this terrosrist threat that we find ourselves confronting. Yes Iran is at the mercy of a arsehole government, but may i remind you that they are only in power because the CIA overthrew their democracy in 1953 and replaced with a puppet dictator, who was soon removed after a bloody reveloution which left the Iranian people - who are not all mad overly-religous terrorists as they are portrayed by Bush - in the grips of Ayatollahs who keep power by brute force.
And Saddam Hussein may have been harbouring men who hate America, but he was NOT harbouring the ones who were responsible the horror that happened on 9/11. Osama Bin Laden detested Saddam, and offered his own troops to the Saudi King to fight aggainst Saddam when his armies threatened Saudi land, however he was ignored and Western troops were brought, starting the first Gulf War. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, this invasion could never have lowered the terrorist threat, we no nearer bringing the bastard responsible for 9/11 to justice, there was no evidence that Saddam was concelaing anything larger than a firework collection, and not only that another phycopathic dictaor - Kim-jong ill - ( who strangely enough governs a country with almost no oil whatsoever) as quite recently made himself a nice - if primitive - little nuclear arsenal.
And to end i just want to say that what our troops face in Iraq is a war different from anything we haver ever faced, they are not fighting an army, or 'terrorists', they are fighting men no diffrent from you or me, except that they have gone some real hardship. Think about it, they spent years under the tyranny of a man who ruled the country with horrible brutallity, but who was a master of propaganda and could - unless you got on the wrong side of him - provide you with security, a job, and the knowledge that your friends and loved ones will not be killed on the streets. Then an army from a country that you've always been told was 'evil' walks in and removes him, leaving you at first happy to be free of the bastard, but you now no longer have a job and there is nothing you can do but watch as your loved ones are killed in the chaos which now surrounds you, and all you can blame are this army who invade for a reason that you are unsure of. In these conditions a peaceful man is brought to the edge, and becomes a fuse waiting to be lit, and all it takes is for a couple of mad imams to say that this army has not only caused you so much suffering, but it is also at war with Islam, your faith. And bang, the fuse is lit and every poor bastard in the country grabs a gun and fights not only as vengence for their suffering, but because they believe they have to to defend their beliefs and religion. Not only this but now many Muslims around the world look apon the suffering of the Iraqi citizens, and think of it as the west making war with their religion- which it of course was never meant to be - but nonetheless - again with the help of mad imams - convinces angry, confused young men that it is right to blow themselves up in trains in order to destroy an 'infidel' they believe they are at war with.
Sorry i went on a bit there but this whole thing really pisses me off
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/04 12:45
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By: rad55667
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/12 04:48
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By: dannydanny
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War is an easy way out.
Im sorry, i just
i cant accept
that in an age where we can send people to the moon,
the solution to our problems is to shoot somebodys brains out?
I think its wrong. I think its murder for a start.
And the iraq is a complete shambles. You cant really tell how many iraqi civillians have died, numbers range from 70,000 to 900,000 depending on where you read them and data can be manipulated but even if its 70,000, thats still 70,000 than need be. Thats civilians, NOT terrorists, or soldiers. Thats not 'freedom' for us, them or anyone else. Thats genocide. Thats what you DONT see on the news.
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/19 19:52
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By: fsudude2010
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Ok first of all we are not there for oil. If we were gas prices in this country would not be as high as they are. Second, we tried diplomacy for many, many years. The UN would sanction Saddam and his nation. He would laugh it off. The UN inspctors were kicked out after a few weeks of "inspections". They were denied access to many locals in the country. The UN gave deadlines and did not enforce them. So the US did. Oh and to disagree with Dany, we see and hear that stuff on the news everyday!! What we dont see are the children and people huging allied soliders. Our engineers rebuiliding schools, hosipitals, homes, etc. Death sells peace and love dont. Geoicide was happeining before we were there. Saddam gassed his people. Killed anyone that stood against him. We did nothing. As for it being murder? If it is unjustifyied it is but when you are being shot at you have a right to defend yourself. I have friends and family members over there fighiting right now doing there job, following orders. So saying that what they are doing is murder is calling my family and long time friends murders and i do not apreciate that. They are willing to die for people they have never met in any nation on this planet. I do agree that the country is in shambles and we are trying to fix it but rome was not built in a day. It WILL get better. Give it time. Oh and rad55667 knows what he is talking about!!
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/19 21:38
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By: Fickel_Pickel
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"first of all we are not there for oil" -fsudude2010
"I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil" -Alan Greenspan Chairman of the Federal Reserve 1987-2006.
"The UN inspctors were kicked out after a few weeks of "inspections". They were denied access to many locals in the country. The UN gave deadlines and did not enforce them. So the US did." -fsudude2010
Un weapons inspectors were let back into Iraq in 2002. They were not thrown out by Saddam, rather they were asked to leave by the US.
"The commission has not at any time during the inspections in Iraq found evidence of the continuation or resumption of programs of weapons of mass destruction " -Hans Blix
"Saddam gassed his people. Killed anyone that stood against him. We did nothing." -fsudude2010
Actually we did do something. During the Reagan administration US companies provided Saddam the building blocks for his chemical weapons program. We helped him get those weapons, he killed his own people, and Reagan did nothing.
"So saying that what they are doing is murder is calling my family and long time friends murders and i do not apreciate that." -fsudude2010
The truth is to be understood not appreciated. There have been gross human rights violations committed by US troops and Us contractors.
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/20 01:38
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By: SimplySimon
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Soulfire wrote:
9/11 gave the US a perfect chance to start picking on those standing in its way of cheaper oil
You say this like it's a bad thing. How many times a day do your drive (or ride) somewhere? How many times do you flip on a lightswitch for light, or turn a faucet for water? My guess is quite a few ... And most of it is powered by oil. Oil that we need to be cheaper
Wait, what?
So you're saying a MORAL and ETHICAL reason for the war in Iraq is 'We need cheaper oil!'?
That is just ridiculous!
Oh no! The Iraqis have developed a sense of independence and are now selling their oil for fair and reasonable prices! THIS OF COURSE MEANS WAR! How dare they charge a fair price to boost economic growth when we are able to enjoy the cheap, abundance of oil,all while limiting Iraqs potential growth!?!
This war is, quite obviously, all about oil! If it wasn't about oil then why has the US not entered North Korea especially since it is publicly known they have nuclear weapons, have tested nuclear weapons and are willing to use them if necessary? Oh, I remember why, North Korea has no oil!
This war is just ridiculous and pointless, the sooner we are out, the better.
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/20 04:26
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By: chemical_flare
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I think the Bush admin. are much smarter then they are given credit for...which makes me wonder why they HAD to invade? I don't personally think it was for oil. If it was, we would be using their fields to max production, which they aren't.
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2007/09/20 10:32
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By: rad55667
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In all fairness the reason why the we don't invade North Korea has nothing to do with its lack of oil,
We could never invade North Korea as we fear the Dragon that protects it
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2008/05/20 16:27
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By: MRHollen
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Cheeper oil... Thats a good one.
Yeah... lets try not to have a repeat of Vietnam by getting out of there too soon. The second we pull out Iraq it'll be like WWIII. (Unless Iraq is able to fight off any threat, like Iran. However, they are soooo not able to do that right now.)
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2008/05/21 13:01
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By: Football_Boy
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1. Iraq is a giant waste of time.
2. Saddam wasn't hurting us, and the US violated its own supposed ideals (ie. the Atlantic Charter) by declaring war on a sovreign nation for its own private benefit.
3. We're getting thousands of innocent people killed every day we stay there.
4. The US economy is facing a major slowdown due to the massive costs of supplying such a large amount of troops overseas.
5. George W. Bush is a certifiable moron...
Thank you!
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Re:WAR ON IRAQ - YOUR THOUGHTS
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Date: 2008/05/21 13:03
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By: Football_Boy
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1. Iraq is a giant waste of time.
2. Saddam wasn't hurting us, and the US violated its own supposed ideals (ie. the Atlantic Charter) by declaring war on a sovreign nation for its own private benefit.
3. We're getting thousands of innocent people killed every day we stay there.
4. The US economy is facing a major slowdown due to the massive costs of supplying such a large amount of troops overseas.
5. George W. Bush is a certifiable moron...
Thank you!
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