Am I the *only* one here that thinks all this stuff is utter nonsense?<br /><br />Post edited by: borto, at: 2007/06/27 04:53

hmmm yeah probably, who honestly, who really cares what you think? you don't have to believe in it

borto wrote:

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Am I the *only* one here that thinks all this stuff is utter nonsense?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post edited by: borto, at: 2007/06/27 04:53

I'm with you...this is almost as silly as &quot;christianity&quot;.

Mike2943 wrote:

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gwdboi wrote:

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The thing about magick is that there are many traditions, you need to find the one that works best with your personality. There's wicca, druid, egyption, wizardry, dark arts, etc. I'm personally aligned with shadow lore which takes the view that white magick, grey magick, and black magick are okay to use as long as the intent of the practitioner is pure.

Also, keep in mind that a spell is only as good as the person casting it.

If you have any questions or just want to talk, pm me.

Blessed be

yeah but from what I learned isn't black magick bad? you usually do bad things dealing with that kind of magick like bindings and such. and isn't druidism not thought of anymore?

First off some of my best friends are druids who are quite alive and well

Also, for some reason humans over the millenia have come up with this concept that light is good and dark is bad. This is not exactly ture... darkness can be good to. For example, many binding spells are considered &quot;black&quot; magick but they aren't bad, they're truly to help a specific person that is being troublesome by causing them pain, depression, etc (sending back the negative energies that they have sent out). Many things that are considered &quot;black&quot; I would consider an invocation of the law of three... putting events into motion that are inevitable, but speeding up the timetable so to speak. So, dark can be good, light can be bad... all depends on the intent.

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yeah just from what I've learned black magick is bad, but I guess it could be ok if to say you were binding a bad person. but hey I have a question. I think of things that seem kind of weird or whatever, but I'm wondering, to become a full fledged wiccan, do you have to recite the wiccan law in the presence of a full fledged wiccan?

Who you are is in your heart... nobody can tell you that you are or are not something... preticularly where the craft is concerned.

barely.conscious wrote:

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borto wrote:

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Am I the *only* one here that thinks all this stuff is utter nonsense?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post edited by: borto, at: 2007/06/27 04:53

I'm with you...this is almost as silly as &quot;christianity&quot;.

is there really any point coming in here and telling us that were &quot;crazy&quot; or something for believing in magick?

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Mike2943 wrote:

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yeah just from what I've learned black magick is bad, but I guess it could be ok if to say you were binding a bad person. but hey I have a question. I think of things that seem kind of weird or whatever, but I'm wondering, to become a full fledged wiccan, do you have to recite the wiccan law in the presence of a full fledged wiccan?

Who you are is in your heart... nobody can tell you that you are or are not something... preticularly where the craft is concerned.

yeah I guess so, but is the wiccan law just something to remember. but I have another question, why is it that &quot;what you send back comes back to thee, so ever you mind the law of 3&quot; so why is it that what you send out comes back to you 3 fold?

gwdboi wrote:

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Mike2943 wrote:

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gwdboi wrote:

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The thing about magick is that there are many traditions, you need to find the one that works best with your personality. There's wicca, druid, egyption, wizardry, dark arts, etc. I'm personally aligned with shadow lore which takes the view that white magick, grey magick, and black magick are okay to use as long as the intent of the practitioner is pure.

Also, keep in mind that a spell is only as good as the person casting it.

If you have any questions or just want to talk, pm me.

Blessed be

yeah but from what I learned isn't black magick bad? you usually do bad things dealing with that kind of magick like bindings and such. and isn't druidism not thought of anymore?

First off some of my best friends are druids who are quite alive and well :-)

Also, for some reason humans over the millenia have come up with this concept that light is good and dark is bad. This is not exactly ture... darkness can be good to. For example, many binding spells are considered &quot;black&quot; magick but they aren't bad, they're truly to help a specific person that is being troublesome by causing them pain, depression, etc (sending back the negative energies that they have sent out). Many things that are considered &quot;black&quot; I would consider an invocation of the law of three... putting events into motion that are inevitable, but speeding up the timetable so to speak. So, dark can be good, light can be bad... all depends on the intent.

yeah thats what I'm saying sort of, its like there is no white, black, or gray magick, its just magick, but some people judge what kind of magick it is on how other people tend to use it

Greetings,
Let me shed some High Priesty light on this

Magick is not White, Grey or Black, Magick is just energy that goes to the users will. If you wish to inflict harm whatever you cast shall ! Same for what you term &quot;White Magick&quot;

Also there are two 'rules' if you will that govern our se of magicks, one being the wiccan rede &quot;an' it harm none do what thou will&quot; and the rule of three &quot;Every mind the rule of three, whatever ye giveth, cometh to thee&quot;

Wiccans tend to live by the rede in their everyday lives as well the lives to the goddess.

Any questions just PM me.

Borto and the other one, if you think it's silly, please leave it alone, we are here discussing our beliefs and practises, you are no better than homophobes or racists. We do not need to be bullied or persecuted so please, leave us alone. We don't harass you because you believe in nothing, so please leave us alone !

Blessed Be,
x

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borto wrote:

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Am I the *only* one here that thinks all this stuff is utter nonsense?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post edited by: borto, at: 2007/06/27 04:53

I'm with you...this is almost as silly as &quot;christianity&quot;.

ur so prty how can u be such a bitch?! eh there's other prty guys that aren't bitches...