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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
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Stating your opinion doesn't make you an arse- so now i'm going to state mine, lol.:P


Lol, i know, it just pisses off some of my friends when I start getting all serious like

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I'm sorry but you can't just lump people into those three categories, humans and their individual beliefs are much more complex than that.


I believe you can in that situation, what other answer can there be but "yes", "no", or "undecided", when asked "do you believe in a God(s)/Higher Being(s)?"

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Also you seem to have confused agnostics as being the 'undecided'- we are not. Just because we are neither atheist nor theist doesn't mean we are the middle ground, the fence sitters. I myself am very firm in my beliefs- that there is no God or a higher being the likes of which humans generally think of but neither is there absolutely nothing other than what we see.


Uh uh, agnosticism is the belief that one cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, this was the original definition of the word, which others have confused. I myself can be described as an atheistic agnostic, fo I believe there is no God, yet, I believe one does not (yet) have the means to prove or disprove God. However, as there is a great lack of empirical evidence and logic for there being a God, I do not believe one exists.

However, there you have it, you've answered to yourself. You are an atheist, it doesn't matter whether you believe that there may be some object/being higher/greater than humans which is/are outside our spectrum of knowledge, the question is "do you believe one exists?" You stated firmly; no. Saying that though, just because three categories have been given, does not mean one cannot add onto those given categories, other categories which help to show who one is in a more detailed manner.

But yer, I make loads of double posts on this site, never do it on other sites and it pisses me off <br /><br />Post edited by: Palachinov, at: 2007/07/04 07:15
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
To anyone who constantly tries to disprove Christianity: what compels you to do this? Do you feel like your helping people? Just a general question, I'm seriously not trying to create an argument or anything...<br /><br />Post edited by: Sxcriley, at: 2007/07/05 22:01
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
Why does one criticise/disprove anything? If we disagree with it, then we'll criticise or discredit it, everyone does so, including (some) Christians on subjects such as homosexuality or gender roles.
I personally can get along very well with anyone with religion, most of the time I won't criticise them, but now and then we do get into little respectable debates.
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
&quot;To anyone who constantly tries to disprove Christianity: what compels you to do this? Do you feel like your helping people?&quot;:

In a way, yes. I don't do it out of hate, I do it because (being a former Christian) I feel like Christians are being mislead with their often blind faith and faulty belief system. I feel like if I could show them the loop holes in their belief system, then it would make life better for them and everyone else, since they wouldn't be practicing and spreading something that I feel does more harm than good.
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
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To anyone who constantly tries to disprove Christianity: what compels you to do this? Do you feel like your helping people? Just a general question, I'm seriously not trying to create an argument or anything...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post edited by: Sxcriley, at: 2007/07/05 22:01


Well when your exposed to a certain religion and start to question and pull away usually people try to disprove it. I guess it would be the same if I was raised Muslim and would try disproving the Koran etc... but I focus mainly on Christianity but sometimes debate on other religions the best I can since I am not as familiar with the others as Christianity.
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
Palachinov:
i understand ur reasoning, but who are u benefiting?

titojtd:
imo, as a christian, i don't feel that ur helping me; frustrating me would be more accurate.

LeonTrotsky:
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Well when your exposed to a certain religion and start to question and pull away usually people try to disprove it.

I'm slightly confused by this. Are you suggesting that u are still confused about religon and ur trying to disprove it in order to persuade urself that its not true/made up? or am i totally wrong and u mean something totally different
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
Lets say you deconvert from Christianity, you start to question things. Perhaps &quot;disprove&quot; is not the right word to use, maybe challenge?
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
EDIT: DOUBLE POST.<br /><br />Post edited by: LeonTrotsky, at: 2007/07/07 13:35
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
LeonTrotsky wrote:
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Lets say you deconvert from Christianity, you start to question things. Perhaps &quot;disprove&quot; is not the right word to use, maybe challenge?


Is that a question, if so i missed it. Or are u agreeing with my statement, except replacing disprove with challenge.
 
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Re:Agnostics/Atheists 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
&quot;imo, as a christian, i don't feel that ur helping me; frustrating me would be more accurate.&quot;:
Not to be a smartass, but that's probably because I haven't tried to prove/disprove anything yet. lol
 
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