Spencer Silver says: [I would prefer to keep sex, and porn, and dildos or whatever in the same ranks of going to the movies to see a good show, or going to the mall to buy yourslef something nice.]

A thought here would be that if you rank sex, porn, and dildos into something as general as seeing a movie, there is no background to what is appropriate. Most people consider those things to be somewhat personal. From what I've experienced I don't see people talking about the longest dildo they've used or the best porn they've seen in public.

Spencer Silver says:
[Lets all take a little step back, and really look at how silly it is to compair porn, to anything to do with emtion shall we?]

The purpose of pornographic videos is to stimulate emotional needs. If a child today was to watch porn, never having sex, he would have a range of emotions. This could range from loneliness to severe depression. Emotions are a key part to the success of pornographic videos mainly because each video provides you with an emotion you crave and or need to have "filled"

dean says: [If its child porn or something, which is wrong, then it is! ]

That is pretty wrong :/ sadly child porn gets around alot.

irodino says: [ Sins are merely actions that a certain group of people defines as something they dont like to do or see.]

This is true, but the idea of sin creates morals. Sins being mere is incorrect since it attributes to the highest degree of wrong doing. Some cultures may believe Pornography is unjustified, but most believe it's a sin. And if it is so widely believed then should we dismiss it?

Spencer Silver says :[Of course it's everybody's right to watch porn films and material]

Sorry for being so subjective, but I should just go to the elementary school down my block and announce that porn is justified? I don't believe whether porn is right or wrong is the question, because the issue has so many grey areas, but rather is the use of porn justified.

Spencer Silver says:[not the porn industrie's fault, it's all our society's fault]

I won't say it's none of society's fault, however; the porn industry is producing this willingly accepting the consequences knowing that they will mostly cause harm to our society. Whether society is handling it correctly is another issue

Spencer Silver says: [First off, even if you do not enjoy pornography it is nice to realize that there is a huge, money making industry devoted in its name.]

How does this help our country? Does the degrading of the human anatomy save lives? Does it help to cure diseases? I understand that the money made from the industry helps support our economy, but do we want something something that is considered sinful to be one of America's greatest assets?

Spencer Silver says :[You have to think of it this way. If there is a youth that is thinking about having sexual experiences, and there is no way for them to vent their sexual energy, they are actually going to go out and have sex.]

I agree with you upon this point, but from a purely argumentative stand-point, wouldn't the child be able to go out and say, "Hey, I want to try fisting"? You are allowing the child to be exposed to something similar to a dou

That is pretty wrong :/ sadly child porn gets around alot.

irodino says: [ Sins are merely actions that a certain group of people defines as something they dont like to do or see.]

This is true, but the idea of sin creates morals. Sins being mere is incorrect since it attributes to the highest degree of wrong doing. Some cultures may believe Pornography is unjustified, but most believe it's a sin. And if it is so widely believed then should we dismiss it?

Spencer Silver says :[Of course it's everybody's right to watch porn films and material]

Sorry for being so subjective, but I should just go to the elementary school down my block and announce that porn is justified? I don't believe whether porn is right or wrong is the question, because the issue has so many grey areas, but rather is the use of porn justified.

Spencer Silver says:[not the porn industrie's fault, it's all our society's fault]

I won't say it's none of society's fault, however; the porn industry is producing this willingly accepting the consequences knowing that they will mostly cause harm to our society. Whether society is handling it correctly is another issue

Spencer Silver says: [First off, even if you do not enjoy pornography it is nice to realize that there is a huge, money making industry devoted in its name.]

How does this help our country? Does the degrading of the human anatomy save lives? Does it help to cure diseases? I understand that the money made from the industry helps support our economy, but do we want something something that is considered sinful to be one of America's greatest assets?

Spencer Silver says :[You have to think of it this way. If there is a youth that is thinking about having sexual experiences, and there is no way for them to vent their sexual energy, they are actually going to go out and have sex.]

I agree with you upon this point, but from a purely argumentative stand-point, wouldn't the child be able to go out and say, "Hey, I want to try fisting"? You are allowing the child to be exposed to something similar to a double edged sword. The question is, do the benefits outweigh the bad consequences?

By sinful are you actually implying that this question will be based on the rules given by the bible? Or are you just asking if its a generally 'bad' thing?

I think it has its times. Times when you just wanna relieve tension. But I think its best to avoid it if you're able to. Some people get depressed afterwards, some get way to sexually orientated since it encourages meaningless sex, some get weird ideas in their head, and some people even say that certain porn concepts could encourage people to commit rape etc etc. And all that other... Weird stuff...

Don't really know how to take porn... I spose.... 'Use sparingly'. It's not necessarily bad. But it hasn't really got all that much good in it.<br /><br />Post edited by: C_Dude, at: 2007/09/22 03:42

i really doubt that porn is sinful because its just basically sex. It's just a video of two people going all the way and sex is a beautiful thing when taken cautionally. Its good to see whats happening and the process of sex just in case.

Now if thats all you do (like a porn addict) then something is wrong. If you cant get through a day without watched at least 5 porn vids.. then i take it as a sin because you are addicted to something superficial and something that has no deeper meaning.

depends on what religion you are i suppose, if it really is sinful, i dont think half the people today would be watching it

what the fcuk has religion got to do with anything? name ONE religion on this entire planet that says the human being may not copulate! Precisely the opposite for ALL religions. Just because some ppl like to watch others perform, what gives a believer of ANY faith the right to tell others that it is sinful?

Porn, like any commodity, is a combination of choices. You choose to watch. You choose to not to watch . You choose to make a porm film, if that what floats you boat. You choose not to. You choose to express an opinion on the matter. Or not.

Is porn not merely an art of expression? if so, then who are we to condone or condemn. Surely it is a personal choice. So whatever your opinion, no-one has the right to dictate to others that your opinion is correct.

If an action you do within your own home doesn't affect anybody in a negative manner, it is regarded as not being morally wrong.

This whole debate ties back to the right for privacy.

In 1965, Connecticut had a law that prohibited the use of contraceptives (birth control). A doctor recommends a condom to a married couple and all of a sudden you have Griswold vs. The State of Connecticut. While Connecticut claimed that using a condom is a clear step to prevent contraception, the Supreme Court overruled this case and claimed that Connecticut has no grounds to convict as their law was a violation of martial privacy.

So where did this lead too? Wiki says:

Later decisions by the court extended the principles of Griswold beyond its particular facts. Eisenstadt v. Baird (1972) extended its holding to unmarried couples, whereas the &quot;right of privacy&quot; in Griswold only applied to marital relationships. The argument for Eisenstadt was built on the claim that it was a violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to deny unmarried couples the right to use contraception when married couples did have that right (under Griswold). Writing for the majority, Justice Brennan wrote that Massachusetts couldn't enforce the law onto married couples because of Griswold v. Connecticut, so the law worked &quot;irrational discrimination&quot; if not extended to unmarried couples, as well.

The reasoning and language of both Griswold and Eisenstadt were cited in support of the Court's result in Roe v. Wade (1973). The decision in Roe struck down a Texas law that criminalized aiding a woman in getting an abortion. The Court recognized this law as a violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The law was struck down, legalizing abortion for any woman for any reason she chooses, up until the fetus reaches a point in development at which it can survive outside of the womb.

Lawrence v. Texas (2003) struck down a Texas state law that prohibited certain forms of intimate sexual contact between members of the same sex. Using rational basis review, the Court overruled Bowers v. Hardwick (1986), declaring that the &quot;Texas statute furthers no legitimate state interest which can justify its intrusion into the personal and private life of the individual.&quot; Justice Kennedy's majority opinion, based on the liberty interest protected in the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, stated that the Texas anti-sodomy statute touched &quot;upon the most private human conduct, sexual behavior, and in the most private of places, the home,&quot; and attempted to &quot;control a personal relationship that . . . is within the liberty of persons to choose without being punished.&quot; Thus, the Court held that adults are entitled to participate in private, consensual sexual conduct.

While pornography is not morally good, it is not morally wrong. One could say it is suberogatory (not morally wrong, but still distasteful), but that is as far as you can go.<br /><br />Post edited by: KawaiiSeanSan, at: 2007/10/15 07:16

Pornography isn't wrong, its good for people to use Porn to discover what sex is, and what its about, not only that but id rather have people jacking off at home than going out searching for other horny people to have sex with for sex's sake..

i think that when i find the right person i will make love to them, but till then i am quite content using Pornography to masturbate, not all of us follow a Religion, but for those whom do, as somebody said above, its a sin to be Gay, but it certainly isn't wrong!!!

chemical_flare wrote:

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If it is...well I'm certainly going to hell :blink: lmao

LMAO!!! Yeah i guess ill be joining you there. Ill bring the porn, you bring the TV. lol

Chris

Pornography is great - I'd much rather go to hell that live without porn teehee..although i do agree with somebody that said that being addicted to porn is quite the opposite as watching it for pleasure...

If there were a God, yes, pornography would be a bit of a sin... and?

No, I don't think pornography has a direct effect on lowering unwanted birth rates and STDs. The U.S. has quite a high rate of both, particularly the first, and there's more than enough porn available there. Prohibition and 'distractions' have never 'cured' us of our inately animalistic sexual desires.

As for education, some pornography could offer some. Though I think commercial porn is a very 'biased' lesson. Particularly on issues like anal sex. Most the time, no safe sex is used, there's insufficient lubrication (spit is not lubricant), the female or weaker male gets totally dominated and basically becomes a slave for the more powerful one and it seems every porno director wants to have the receiver of anal pretending they're passing a kidney stone. Anal sex shouldn't hurt, yet the porno industry promotes that it's a given. This said, it's bad to rely on for education, but good enough for entertainment if that's what you want it for.

The best education is sex-play, I'm sick of this pussy-footing around the issue. You want a kid to learn how to play a guitar, you let him/her play a guitar; you don't put them in the corner and make them look at a guitar on the other side of the room. If you're worried about them playing wrong notes, then I fear our society's become a mere crowd of pussies.

Plus, sometimes it's hard to see when they're wrapped in wool.