i definately feel they should teach others about the happenings and goings on of the "gay world" as if they're brought up with the concept i think there'd be less hatred - not saying that everyone WILL be more accepting...but the pricks who feel we are outsiders can gladly answer to me lol...

when i was at school - all my friends were very open, understanding etc. but i understand that it's not the case everywhere so I think somewhere there should be something in schools where gay rights etc. are explained in full...

dan x

Good luck convincing homophobic parents of this! The main reason that gay instruction hasn't been used yet in schools is homophobia from the PTA. However the greatest arguments against this are closely tied into the debate as to weather being gay is a choice/lifestyle or a genetic condition, no more of a choice than the color of your skin. One argument is that sex education rarely talks about feelings, so helping youth out with their questions of love aren't even allotted to straight kids. The only addition they should probably add is std protection for lesbians, since most protection methods for gay men are the same as straight couples.

Other than that however, the argument tied to orientation 'lifestyle' is basically thus: heterosexual sex is the more 'known' form of sex, thus it makes sense to teach protection about it. But if being gay is a choice; by teaching about it, the teachers are encouraging a 'defiant' lifestyle. I'm not saying that being gay is a choice, but until decisive proof is found that it isn't, that is their argument, and we can't just say "well thats not fair!". Opinions don't change the world, actions and science do.

My school was useless. I stillvget homophobic thoughts popping into my head.

Which makes no sense. It was more the pupils than the teacher or sex education.

I wouldn't have listened anyways....

they should discuss safe sex as crucial, really imbibe it into people.
in religious education they should discuss and dismiss racism but also homophobia.

but to be honest, it shouldnt be up to the school to teach the students life lessons (it is their job to teach practical things, not stuff to do with being a human in society etc)

life lessons must be taught by the parents not by the state, i dont want to life in a society where my morality is forced into me by the government. but the government should promote free thought and discussion of these matters amongst parents and children.

but of course some parents won't discuss it at all but promote homophobia, but that is because they are shit parents that will most likely create shit children.

it is getting better though...

no.. teaching it in schools a bad idea.. and here's why:
Imagine it..
Gay in the closet kid..
They're teaching about gay stuff.. you're really curious and want to ask more..
but.. noone else seems to care cos theyre all making jokes.. because they dont take it seriously.. theyre straight..
the teacher doesnt particularly want to talk about it.. may even skip it or talk around it.. and the only person that gives a shit is the kid thats gay..
how would they feel then? they would be embaressed to ask questions incase they give something away and everyone would think them weird and make it easier to guess..
if anything.. the people making jokes about gay stuff would upset me and make it more the less enjoyable.. i mean.. sure ideally people would listen and lose homophobicality..
but realistically.. thats never going to happen.. people who pay attention will give off the impression of being gay.. and those who are gay will poretend not to give a shit to cover up.. unless they were already out.. but even then.. it makes a bigger gap between him and his friends if they know..
im gay and i dont really care about not being taught in school.. its no biggie.. i know enough and if i have any questions.. i use GYC.. Its what its for..

i totally think tht skools shld teach bout gays!! fer sure!! cuz were here and we shldnt b ashamed of who we r just cuz a frikkin book says its rong thts fer sure!! i totally am supported by lots of pl but thy still dont quite understand!!

whether the teacher and the school admin want to teach about homosexuality in sex ed class, the parent will NEVER allow it. you'll find ultra-conservative parents denouncing homosexual and saying the schools are trying to "turn their children gay!"
the schools should teach things that work for both heterosexual AND homosexual couples and use handouts for the hetero- and homo- specific things.

As someone's just said above, when you do talk about it in school their can just be giggles and no-one takin it seriously which makes u have to laugh along with it, and crapping urself wonderin if ur givin anything away. When it happened in my school every1 was lookin round at other people for signs that they were like blushin or payin too much attention etc. It's awkward and not very detailed but on the other hand not having it wouldnt be good either. Someone needs to think of a new way of doing it that stops that sort of discrimination in the exact lesson its meant to be stopped in.

yourdaddy766 wrote:

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no unless the majority of kis in your school are gay then it would be fair
but not that many kids are gay and most hate gays i just think it would just be another big struggle that the straights would win

what's there to win, you fucking moron?


don't you think that education about homosexuality would prove more successful if it was directed towards straight people?

The point we're trying to get across is AWARENESS and EDUCATION.

seriouslycant wrote:

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no.. teaching it in schools a bad idea.. and here's why:
Imagine it..
Gay in the closet kid..
They're teaching about gay stuff.. you're really curious and want to ask more..
but.. noone else seems to care cos theyre all making jokes.. because they dont take it seriously.. theyre straight..
the teacher doesnt particularly want to talk about it.. may even skip it or talk around it.. and the only person that gives a shit is the kid thats gay..
how would they feel then? they would be embaressed to ask questions incase they give something away and everyone would think them weird and make it easier to guess..
if anything.. the people making jokes about gay stuff would upset me and make it more the less enjoyable.. i mean.. sure ideally people would listen and lose homophobicality..

I agree with you, seriouslycant. I know that when sex ed. was being taught in my junior high, I wanted to ask questions about homosexuality, but I would never be "brave" enough to ask anything in front of 25 - 30 other, mostly homophobic teens. I also wanted to ask about heterosexual stuff too, but let's be honest here -- talking about sex at school is awkward and uncomfortable, no matter who you are or what sexuality you have.

We're lucky enough to have resources at libraries, online, and through our friends, that we can educate ourselves about sexuality at our own pace. Schools should be responsible for things like educating students about using condoms, about what consequences sex can have (STI's, pregnancy, etc.) and safety issues, and personally I think schools should mention, 'Hey kids, these specific consequences apply with homosexuals as well'.

But as far as schools making sure they are giving homosexual students an open window to ask questions about what it means to be gay, what sexual precautions they should be taking, etc. I don't think it would make a difference. Gay youths are oppressed, and it's almost impossible for a gay kid to raise their hand and admit they have questions about their sexuality. It's just not a supportive enough environment for that kind of admission.

That's just my humble opinion lol.