Edengoth wrote:

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But if one of the biggest trends with this disorder is that the expression of it begets many victims to become p[ae]dophiles themselves, then if we even just prevented repeat offense, we'd see a very sharp decline in p[ae]dophilia all over.

I find this somewhat hard to believe. I do not think it is necessarily the case that these victims become pedophiles themselves and would need to see some concrete proof to that effect before I believed it.

As for the therapy system I think it could be worth trying. It would be hard to do worse then we are right now.....

Although one really big thing that I think desperately needs to be improved about the situation after a child has been molested, is getting that child some therapy. It is very much so needed by them given that they have just been through something like that.

I'm sorry, dragon, I phrased that incorrectly. Most pedophiles were molested as children, not most victims become pedophiles.

well i think that if they have committed an offence or have been planning one, then they should be made impotent!

Yeah, there_i_go, that's called chemical castration. It's one of the only effective treatments that's actually in use to rehabilitate...forcefully, albiet, but I didn't say it had to be voluntary.

Edengoth wrote:

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Yeah, there_i_go, that's called chemical castration. It's one of the only effective treatments that's actually in use to rehabilitate...forcefully, albiet, but :P I didn't say it had to be voluntary.

Believe it or not, chmical castration is not as effective a form of control as they would like you to believe. The urges are still there, however due to the lack of testosterone they don't do as much. Or at least that's what I think I heard somewhere.

So it won't stop them from doing t, they will just not do as much traumtizing things to each kid they get ahold of.... is that a start? combined with more things would that make it completely effective? It's definetly worth trying.

Castration and humiliation, I'm not talking about that take 3 pills and a few shots castrations, I am talking about getting a knife and chop them make him feel it, then make him wear a shirt for some amount of time saying "I am a pedofile, I am wrong". I am very liberal but molestors, rapists, and pedos need to pay. Of course they need to go to prison and make them get what ever they did to the kid/s. Gosh I'm evil

Kingy_boi wrote:

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Castration and humiliation, I'm not talking about that take 3 pills and a few shots castrations, I am talking about getting a knife and chop them make him feel it, then make him wear a shirt for some amount of time saying "I am a pedofile, I am wrong". I am very liberal but molestors, rapists, and pedos need to pay. Of course they need to go to prison and make them get what ever they did to the kid/s. Gosh I'm evil:evil:

This is really bizarre that you'd say the shirt would say "I am a pedophile, I am wrong". Two reasons. First off, read The Scarlet Letter. Secondly, I got into an arguement with someone once who said "gays are wrong", pointing out that there was not really a topic mentioned on which we were mistaken, or "wrong". Saying "I am wrong" generally means someone had their facts incorrect and is admitting it. This is not a matter of fact, but a matter of opinion, and apparenlty emotion.
As I've said repeatedly, there is no excuse for the actions of a pedophile against a child, but there is and equal lack of excuse for cruel and unusual punishment for an action that resulted from something we know almost nothing about. It's so very, very similar to how "sodomites" used to be burned at the stake. (Again, gays haven't actually hurt anyone because of the nature of our orientation.)
Liberal? Liberal would be realizing that anyone has the potential for a criminal mind. Anyone can become a muderer, a pedophile, a thief, etc. under the right conditions. (Albiet, most thieves steal out of percieved necessity or entitlement, and we understand that pretty well.) As much as I hate getting Biblical, "he who is without sin, cast the first stone." It's this cycle of social revenge that makes the world so rotten. "This group wronged me, I'll wrong them back", then the former group says the same thing when wronged back. It's ugly and difficult to break. But it is human nature. Punish the pedophiles cruelly, and who's next? Eventually, when it comes to punishing cruelly those we find in poor moral taste, we'll be right back where we started. Ignorant and violent. Human nature at its most potent...

I think they should be in prison for life! I honestly cannot comprehend how evil a person can be do such things to children! Usually I am a fairly opened minded guy and try to see the good in people but I draw a nice clean line when it comes to pedaphiles!

The poor victims of these "attacks" have to live with the memories for the rest of their lives. The attacker should be sentenced to LIFE in prison, not life in prison for 25 years..whats to stop them finding another young, helpless victim when they come out?!

There can not be a debate about this subject. People who are against them are incapable of seeing any logic that makes them think twice about the topic, and people that seriously question it are persecuted as being paedophiles themselves (J'accuse anyone?)

As soon as this subject gets mentioned, people forget for instance that alot of the things they may have done as a 14/15yo with a 20odd yo would legally constitute the act of 'paedophilia' on the older person's behalf.

I would make a deal of it, but the thread's already so long, and I think I'd rather go hit my head against that brick-wall over there.

By the way, Dragon_14, paedophile AND pedophile are both accepted, you're embarrassing yourself. A search of about 5 seconds on wikipedia would have shown you your error. Those that speak the Queen's English generally spell it paedophile and pronounce it 'pee-da-file', whilst the U.S. wanted to be different and so changed their spelling to 'pedophile' and pronounciation to suit. It just so happens that with the U.S. enormous sphere of intoxication into other countries, even Australians generally use pedophile... even me, paedophile just sounds so... wussy?