Well this is very interesting is it not?

I would first like to say that I am a strong supporter of individuals having the right to voice (or type) their opinion, and having it at least respected. I in this situation am going to have to go out on a rather thin and rotton limb and say that I am a supporter of the pornographic industry. There are many reasons why I am a supporter of such industry and around 90% are not for any real personal ideals.

First off, even if you do not enjoy pornography it is nice to realize that there is a huge, money making industry devoted in its name. Pornographic material is a high dollar, high yeild, industry that can be found in any country. It is just as much an export of counties as lets say, cattle, wheat, oil, tobacco, or anything that is consumable by other countries (and even the country or origin).

Secondy, pornographic material is very good for the youth in all areas of the world. You have to think of it this way. If there is a youth that is thinking about having sexual experiences, and there is no way for them to vent their sexual energy, they are actually going to go out and have sex. I know that sadly this happenes somewhat anyway, but at least with pornogrphic movies/mags. they have a chance to vent that in a safe and secure inviorment. I am by no means saying that pronogrphy is something that should replace human relationship and better yet, human sexual relationships. It is just an option that may help in the teen birth rate and spreading of STI's.

Fitting in with the second topic it is also a good way for youth to invision what they are going to like in sex. It is kinda a lesson of sorts. Like, I like this here, or no I would never want to do that. It also gives them a good sexual vocabularly, so when someone asks them, "Do you want to go bareback?" They can answere "No I do not, I don't want to catch anything."

I say it is a good thing, just as good as any American Apple Pie, any Canadian pure Maple Syrup. It is just something that is there, and will stay. So I think, look on the bright side of things, and use it to the best of your ability. Be if that means cuffing it to some movies, or by appreciating the fact that in the long run, somewhere down the road it might end up putting money in your pocket.

>>>>SPENCER HALE

Since you used the term 'sinful', I'm going to first tackle this using religion at my side. Take note that I'm gay.
Yes, pornography is sinful, as well is homosexuality. I should know this having studied the bible so many times, and viewing this situation on both sides, they clearly state that lusting is bad. Why do you think you feel shame when you're masturbating or the like?

Oh c'mon, pornography encourages sexual activity. People are less likely to have underaged sex or commit rape if they weren't exposed to this stuff in the first place. If pornography didn't exist, there'd be much less craving for sexual excitement.
Look back in the past, when they didn't have adult videos or magazines. You didn't hear about teenagers raping people or being sexually active did you?

Sure it's a money making industry, but do you know how many people's lives, including children's are ruined from doing involuntary acts for other people's pleasure?

You stated it enhances sexual vocabulary, but who needs to know what any of that means?

I don't know about you mate, but I don't feel any shame at all when jacking off. It's a perfectly natural sexual release, and I feel for those who actually believe it's a negative practice.

Sex is inbuilt. We don't suddenly get our first sexual urges because we see porn; the need to reproduce is innate. It must be, to propagate our species. I have a feeling that back in the day, the public did not hear of "teenagers raping people" because technology and media progression have enabled the dissemination of information in our current age. It happened then as it happens now- we just hear about it these days.

And involuntary acts for people's pleasure is rape or sexual assault- not the sex industry. Crimes that include an element of sex and the recording and transmission of sex through a medium are two very different things.

<br /><br />Post edited by: Cyanide Killer, at: 2007/08/19 02:37

sin is a religious idea, so any ethical action can only be sinful in a religious context.

porno on its own is therefore not a sin.

sin is when you break a religious code of practice and as religion is law based - if prono is forbidden then if you partake in it or watch it - you breach the code and become a sinner.

sin is different from ethical correctness. because sin is applied to the person not the action.

but wether or not it is ethically right is another issue.

under utilitarianism - it is technically ethical, as it populates utility for almost everyone involved - the only problem is whether or not a porn actor is scared (as in to have a scar (metaphorically)) or if being a porn actor means long lasting abuse to the person. if so then under this system it is wrong.

under christian ethics it is wrong - as porno is generally outside marriage (generally!)

under natural law theory it is more difficult to determine, does it go agaisnt the natural progress of things?

under kant it is a bit more difficult to determine.

under situation ethics it seems to be ok for similar reasons to those for utilitarianism

etc etc

i would be under the general concensus that it is ethically wrong.

Did you know that by having 200 orgasms a year(a little less than 4 a week) you can reduce your physical age by 6 whole years?

Gumdropster wrote:

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Did you know that by having 200 orgasms a year(a little less than 4 a week) you can reduce your physical age by 6 whole years?

... you must be joking - i can possibly see that applying if your around 100, not when your 16.

Sex is great exercise. That applies regardless of age.

Plus it's a great way to know that everything inside you work as it should

Bamboo wrote:

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Since you used the term 'sinful', I'm going to first tackle this using religion at my side. Take note that I'm gay.
Yes, pornography is sinful, as well is homosexuality. I should know this having studied the bible so many times, and viewing this situation on both sides, they clearly state that lusting is bad. Why do you think you feel shame when you're masturbating or the like?

Okay, 1, EVERYTHING is sinful according to the bible. Hell, we're BORN with original sin. You say that we feel shame after masturbation because it's sinful? Actually, what your feeling is the adverse effects of having a huge ammount of testosterone released from your body - and this doesnt affect everybody i should point out. Of course, if you go around thinking masturbation is a terrible thing, then you might ACTUALLY feel guilt/shame, but then, why do it?

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Oh c'mon, pornography encourages sexual activity. People are less likely to have underaged sex or commit rape if they weren't exposed to this stuff in the first place. If pornography didn't exist, there'd be much less craving for sexual excitement.
Look back in the past, when they didn't have adult videos or magazines. You didn't hear about teenagers raping people or being sexually active did you?

Okay, no offence, but you're an idiot. I've been watchin porn since i've been about 13. I'm almost 19 now, and i lost my virginity about 8 months ago. So how exactly did my exposure to porn make me have underage sex? And RAPE! What the hell? People rape people because they're bastards! There are millions of people in this country who have watched porn and NOT raped someone, are you saying they spend their time fighting the porn-induced urge to commit rape? If you're reffering to specialised porn (ie. rape porn and child porn and all that - which is ILLEGAL) then you should know those sorts of videos don't cause people to repeat what they see, the market for that material is generated by people already interested in it!
Oh, and the reason why we didnt hear about underage sex and rape as much before the widespread porn industry was not because porn wasn't around - it was around - but because we didnt have 24hour news channels, satalite television and mobile phones: all this stuff was STILL happening, we just didn't hear about it.

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Sure it's a money making industry, but do you know how many people's lives, including children's are ruined from doing involuntary acts for other people's pleasure?

That isn't the porn industry you're describing, that's underground illegal porn. Mainstream porn videos, dvds and magazines aren't full of people being forced to do stuff against their will; when the guy asked if porn was sinful, he was on about the Porn Industry, not illegal child porn or porn created against the subject's will.

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You stated it enhances sexual vocabulary, but who needs to know what any of that means?

And now you sound like the religious right who think that sex-ed should be replaced with abstinance-only lessons. 'Sexual Vocabulary' as you put it, is necessary so that young people who DO have sex, know what theyre doing. Young people WILL have sex - not all of them, but some - and underage pregnancy is caused by lack of sexual understanding - ie. how to use a condom - rather than people going &quot;oh look, those people in that magazine look like theyre enjoying themselves, let's go do that!&quot;
There's always some person or group that decides kids shouldn't learn about these things, and all it achieves is higher teenage pregnancy rates and more widespread transmition of STDs. Have you never noticed how so many pornography sites, dvds and magazines (especially Gay-orientated ones) have warnings - BIG warnings - about safe-sex, condom use and HIV. How is that information NOT helpful?