christianity sucks

DF, i dont know, i agree with you to a point, but then again some of what you said, i cant fully support. First of all, god or the supreme being(s), which ever you believe or don't, created us all uniquely. To say that creating homosexuals was an accident, is like saying that black, asian, hisapaic people and the disabled were all mistakes. We have come to accecpt that all of the above are not mistakes, and enforces the idea that each one of us is unique. To think of homosexuality as any different, is just ludacris. Plus the references in the bible on homosexuality, are rather obscure. I'm sure you've heard this before, but if not, here it is. Lavidicus makes all certin references to rules such as mixing two different threads, like yours and my favorite abercrombie shirt, is a sin and we should be put to death. Farmers across the United States should be stoned for planting two different crops side by side. And fathers have the right to sell their daughters off as slaves. If Jesus were alive today, he would preach love and accecptance for LGBT people, because thats what he preached and died for, Love and Accecptance. Don't think that you have to be a celibate gay to still go to heaven. Secondly, to think that god would smite gays like he did the romans and the greeks, im sory to say is brain washing. The god i have come to accecpt, is not much different than Jesus. He doesn't punish people, he embreces. Sure we look back and think that whey were wacked, but think how people 2000 years from now, a new soceity is going to look back at us. Who knows, maybe heteosexuality will be the new homosexuality to them, i dont know. But god to us, was 12+ gods to them, just like god to muslims is allah. Just because a soceity was polythestic, doens't make them corrupt. Look at the advancments they made. They had indoor plumbing, thousands of years ago, but the people of the dark ages, who followed the bible, and they just simply forgot about this. And our soecity is corrupt. Every day in the news, this politician took this and is indicted for that. And to prevent treatment on an epidemic, like in the 80s, because it didn't poll well with the base, seems rather immoral and corrupt now. I'm not saying that it's just problem with one side and not the other, dems didn't touch the situation until later too, but you can't compare our soceity to ancient ones with your eyes closed. I know it sounds like im attacking you, but what im trying to say is open up, expand your mind, and when you go to college, and get out of your environment of hate towards our kind, you'll understand, that what who you love, is between you and your god, like its between me and my god, and i know that he loves me for who i am, like my family. You look like a cute, smart kid, i'm sure he loves you for who you are. The whole you.

Peace, Love and Understanding, thats what gods all about!<br><br>Post edited by: Mainpoliboy, at: 2006/05/28 14:26

You need to, for purely intellectual and scholarly reasons, read the &quot;Homosexuality and the Bible&quot; section of www.rayofhopechurch.com. You should also Google a search for &quot;homosexuality in history&quot; and read up on some other peoples' insight. You are right on track philosophically, but you need some more solid information. &quot;Religion&quot; is deceptive; people with real faith often contradict the mainstream &quot;religion&quot; that shares their name. I, for example, am a devoted Christian (bible, miracles, the whole works!) and I am also a happily gay 17 year old with a boyfriend. Interested to know how that happened? Email me at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it . I'll hook you up with more resources. I'm studying all of this right now and have TONS of information if you are interested. Peace!

<br /><br />Post edited by: tistria, at: 2008/05/01 17:45

Christianity is a rubbishy piece of irrelevance which has no place in contemporary society and thus should be discarded as such. Its morals and ethics all have meaning of themselves, and need not be taken with the blue pill of Redemption and Heaven. Existentialist Cynicism to the MAX, baby!

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Christianity is a rubbishy piece of irrelevance which has no place in contemporary society and thus should be discarded as such. Its morals and ethics all have meaning of themselves, and need not be taken with the blue pill of Redemption and Heaven. Existentialist Cynicism to the MAX, baby!

i can't believe that someone on this website would say something like that
we are the ones complaining that society needs to accept us etc etc
and here you are dissing a gazillion peoples beliefs and lives, i don't personally believe in christianity but i just think that you are very shallow minded

back to the topic

i think that the whgole sexuality acceptance thing will go round in a big circle and the nex stage after joint is gay being the norm and straights suffering prejudice etc etc

and b4 sum1 states the whole population thing SPERM BANKS
gah
therewe have it
panny

Oi. I accept that people can believe in delusions. That's cool. I'm sure I do it myself; it's just a matter of not being able to see the delusions. And I respect peoples' decisions to follow through with the delusions which happen to make them functioning members of their society. What does it matter if the delusions I belittle are those of billions or of one person?

And homosexuality will never be the majority. Perhaps we'll evolve to a labelless society, but &quot;homosexuality&quot; as it's defined will never supercede &quot;heterosexuality&quot;.

ok a who are you to say it is an elusion have you died?? have u proved their is no religion?? no then dnt call it delusion
and for my second point, i think that sexuality acceptance will go round in a circle, i think that first it will poin t of equality of aceptance for a few decades then it will be over majoritied by homosexuality as i believe it is an evoloutionary trait that will affect as many humans as it needs to to control the population and when it stables up again it will then move of in the circle again because as i don't believe in these delusions of yours i believe in nature being clever in theses kinds of ways!!

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I believe that Christianity in and of it self has no conflict with homosexuality, it is just that different people interpret Jesus' message differently. Personally, I believe that Jesus had no problem with homosexuality, in fact I have wondered if he was in fact gay himself.

I dunno about jesus being gay, but the thing about homosexuality and the bible is that most, if not almost all, of the anti-gay statements in the bible are in the old testament. Then jesus comes along, and says a load of stuff about acceptance and love and forgiveness. People citing the bible for anti-gay purposes aren't 'interpreting jesus' message differently' - theyre ignoring it and quoting the old testament.



as for us all being born gay/straight/bi and then society moulding us into what we are, i dont really buy that either, simply because there's no one common factor in every gay person's life. when you see people from all over the world, from all walks of life; some from western cultures, some from third world countries; with or without internet access, with or without TV, with or without fresh water, and yet in all those circumstance you get gay people, i dont see how society can be responisble for them when each society is so vastly different.